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Errortype: 11

Nooit gedacht dat ik nog eens een e-mail interview zou doen. Maar als je een band heel graag wilt zien en interviewen, dit drie keer misloopt door omstandigheden van beide kanten dan ga je wel overstag. Errortype: 11 is de band. Afkomstig uit Queens, New York leverden ze vorig jaar een album af dat niet alleen aardig rockt, maar ook gewoon steengoed is. Op het New Yorkse label Some Records brachten zij hun selftitled debuut uit. Nog maar koud vijf maanden bijelkaar. Arthur Shephard, gitarist en frontman speelde voor Etrortype:11 in Bad Trip, Mind over Matter en World's Fastest Car. Na dit interview is er een EP van ET11 op Crank! uitgekomen. En in het begin bvan dit jar een nieuwe fulllength 'Amplified to rock'. En ook nog een split met Gameface 'What's Up Bro?'
You've just recorded a new album with John Agnello, how did that go and why John Agnello?
We haven't recorded our second album yet, just some demos with John Agnello (Jawbox, Dinosaur Jr). He approached us after hearing our 7" from a friend. We did the demo to see if we liked each other and we did.
The demo came out incredible and he will be recording our next album, but we haven't figured out what we want to sound like. When we did the first record we had only been together five months, so it was very new to all of us, plus it was done at night after work in a big rush. I also think my voice and song writing has improved. We are very excited for people to hear it. I know you will make fun of me for this but it is my "(What's The Story ) Morning Glory?".

Are you going for a specific sound?
I would say that we are looking for something HUGE sounding and also something that everyone can understand. BIG STADIUM ROCK!!!!

What do you mean with that, more of a mainstream sound?
We never try to sound like anything, especially mainstream. That sort of thing happens naturally and I am sure it will never happen to us. The public makes you mainstream, the only thing we can do is write music we like. When I said something everyone can understand, I meant that our first record had some weird shit going on in the song structures. I don't have a very high opinion of other peoples taste in music especially in the hardcore/ emo scene. We tend to be much more 'ROCK' than the bands we are lumped in with and I would like to make a record that appeals to everyone. We arenıt trying to do that , I just hope that it happens. When you try to be mainstream you end up with a record like the last Shift album "Get In". It sounded like they tried too hard to be huge. We just want to have fun.

Do you feel 'trapped' by the hardcore/emo scene, I mean you make rock music but you're playing for a hardcore/emo crowd.
I don't feel trapped by the emo scene at all. I really don't feel like we are a part of it. We play those shows because we are all from the hardcore scene and don't know what else to do. I guess if we didn't we would just be another rock band playing in some bar in NYC. I appreciate the scene a lot, but I am not sure if everyone gets us. I am extremely arrogant and sarcastic on stage. I do that because it is fun, but many people just think I'm an asshole. It is very frustrating to me. I just wish that people would listen to the music and stop worrying about things that I say. We also don't sound like a typical emo band. When we tour the US, every band sounds like watered down versions of Sunny Day Real Estate or the Promise Ring. It is really pathetic. We don't sound like this. That is what I meant by being lumped in with those types of bands. We are better and someday the world will figure that out (probably not), until then we just keep writing good stuff and having fun. I sometimes feel like everyone in this scene only likes what they are told is cool. You have to be on the right label and look a certain way or have the right ex- members in the band. Every scene is the same. I can't really think of bands that would be better to play with everyone from Elliott to Hot Water Music to Samiam, Six going on Seven. I know they are all kind of in the emo scene, but they're good. They write good songs and they sing in key, which seems to be a lost art in the emo scene. Everyone likes a good band I think.

You said you're arogant, can you explain that?
As for arrogance..hmmm. I tend to say some pretty crazy/stupid stuff on stage. I say things like "We are the best band you will see tonight." and "Buy our record, it is the best $8 you will ever spend." And of course another one I got in trouble for "We just got back from tour and I wish that Sunny Day Real Estate, Texas Is The Reason and The Promise Ring never existed so I wouldn't have to hear another band that sounded like them". I was basically insulting everyother band we played with. I was also telling the truth and no one like the truth in this scene. Everything has to be "Thanks to all the other bands" shit. Why? They did nothing for me except take a couple hours of my life that I will never get back. That may sound really fucked up, but many of the bands that we play with this is their little side project during college, for us this is all we have right now. Don't get me wrong, I respect any band that puts effort into what they do. I like who I like and I have my friends, sometimes I make new ones sometimes I make enemies. The bottom line is that you like the music, not me. I am there as the court jester trying to get a bunch of emotionally confused kids with a limited musical vocabulary to pay attention by saying crazy shit...to me it is funny, to most I am a dick. Personally I think if everyone drank at shows they would get it, let go of your inhibitions and have fun, that is what we do.
In your opnion a lot of bands sound the same nowadays.
Yes that really is the thing, sounding like every other band. I guess it is a blessing because we stick out when we play. Often, whether they realize it or not, people like it when something is easy to like becuase it is generic. It is familiar, it isn't challenging.

Pop music uses this formula and essentially emo is wannabe pop music for the hardcore scene. People hate to have to put any effort into their leisure time, this is understood from my end. I love Oasis, they use the familiarity formula to the hilt. People like a song on first listen because they have heard it before. I don't think that we are the most original band in the world, but I don't listen to any of my peers bands for the sole purpose of not falling into the sounding like Sunny Day/Promise Ping trap. I don't think that anybody purposely trys to sound like them, they just play what they like to hear. I would rather listen to Yes or Genesis and put that through my experience and give it a whole new life.

How come do you think? Is it an age/ experience thing?
I do think that what I say does come from experience and frustration. But I also think that others do it so people will like their band. Let's face it, even if your friends band is terrible, you still give it a better chance because you are friends with the band. That is what the hardcore scene is based on. To me all this is about music and friends. Music being the most important thing. This scene has brought me around the world and helped me meet so many wonderful people I would have never met, but that doesn't excuse terrible music. Maybe I just have different taste then I used to. I just wish that bands had more time to develop these days. Maybe that is the problem. no one does demos anymore, it is just straight to CD or 7". I don't know. I am 26, but the bass player and guitar player are both 21, just to let you know.

What's going on with the label stuff? I imagine that you are dealing with major labels now. Most bands are very restrained when people ask them whatıs going on. So what's going on?

You are right, I don't want to talk about label stuff. We have been dealing with all sorts of labels, indies and majors since we started and I don't know where our next record will come out, most likely it will be indie. I just want people to know who we are and be able to buy the record.

Why isn't the next record coming out on Some records?

First off, our next record may very well come out on Some. We are very close with them and think they did a great job on our last record. We have been getting interest from other labels and it is in our best interest to check it out. That was the whole point of singing a one record deal with Some.

What's going to happen with the World's Fastest Car recordings?
I don't know if that will ever come out. There is a lot of recorded material. I think Island owns those tapes so it would take a little to get them. Walter and I have discussed it and someday (I hope soon) some stuff will come out. I am surprised no one has bootlegged it. If anyone out there does, put my name really big and put Errortype:11 really big somewhere too.

Why did WFC broke up?

It was Walter and I through most of the time, we had many rotating members. There was very little focus and after a year and a half. I quit to get a job and become a regular guy (that didn't last long). He started to play with Chris from Texas Is The Reason, but that was a very short period also, then Quicksand got back together. We played 7 shows 6 in Japan 1 in the US, recorded numerous demos and basically did nothing else. It was a great period of learning and growing up for me. I hated it and learned from it. That is all Iwant to say about it.

Weren't you active at the Common Ground a couple of years ago and helping out with Exit or Wreck Age (records), or was that the other Arty (I thought it was you both) so what happend with that?
I am not Artie Phillie (Milhouse and Indecision), although I did help out at the Common Ground on occasion. I also started Exit records with Pavlos from Wreck-age, but I dropped out after I joined WFC. I still produced a couple of records for them (Silent Majority and Sons of Abraham) and we are definetely still friends. Artie Phillie is more involved with Exit now. People always mix us up, I used to get in trouble for so many things he said plus we lived together for 3 years! It was very confusing.

How did you get into music, how old where you and do you remember the moment that you were like wow this is it.

My sisters were really into music. One of them listened to Pink Floyd and Yes, the other liked Black Sabbath and AC/DC. This is the basis for my bizarre musical taste. The first time I wanted to play guitar I was in fifth grade and I stole Steve Howe (guitar player of YES) "Beginnings" from my sister. It was mind blowing. The Next year I bought Sabbath's Greatest Hits, again I was moved. The final straw was when I bought Mercyful Fate's "Don't Break The Oath" at a church fair for a dollar. That totally changed my life. It wasn't until I found out that I had a tumor on my spine at 15 that I finally started to play. I figured sports were out of the question so it was the only thing to occupy my time. I love music more than anything in the world, it controls my every emotion and mood. I wish the rest of the world felt that way. I met kids in Europe who told me that Lagwagon changed their life, but the Beatles sucked! How fuckin' scary is that? People need to go backwards and find out what quality music and songwriting is because complacency has set in big time and total shit can get popular really easily. Look at Limp Bizkit for christ's sake. I am off the subject but I needed to say that.

If you could have written a song which one would it be and why?
If there was one song I wish I wrote..hmmm. There are so many. Ok David Bowie "Life On Mars" or "Quicksand". Maybe Yes's "Close To the Edge" and also every Guided By Voices song ever. There are many more..maybe "Asphalt World" by Suede. I don't know.

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