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Artie: I don't want to put the new songs out on an indie. I think the new songs are too good. They're fuckin' like Top 40 radio hit material. You know, maybe I'm crazy I don't know but... If it comes out on an indie, it comes out on an indie but I would rather it doesn't. I'd rather push ahead. I'm too old to do this anymore, you know? This is a fluke show with this many people here. It doesn't really mean anything to me you know it's cool, and I like when kids get it but it's not real. If it was just us playing, there would be like 40 people here. Paul: I see what you're saying. Artie: It's like the other bands bring the filler in and we just play. The kids that are into it are into it and that's how you get new fans, and that's cool but I would...we all have been shooting for the majors for a long time and you know, we have management, we have a pretty big producer, you know we have all this stuff a lot of bands don't normally get. Paul: Blue Ghost does your... Artie: Blue Ghost does our press, yeah, and we have John Agnello which is our producer who produced for Jawbox, and Dinosaur Jr. and shit like that. We got, you know like A&R guys flying out from LA to see us which is meaningless as well, it's like as meaningless as anything else but you know, it encourages me to write and I'm writing songs that I hope people will start getting and...(a cop car speeds by) there go the pigs! (everyone laughs) Paul: Yeah, we're kinda in the ghetto. Yo, like you go down this street and one section's all ghetto and then there's all these little shops and shit. Artie: Yeah. I used to go to Sundance and I spent a lot of time here as a kid. That was fucking...13 years ago. Paul: I was gonna say..Sundance was gone a LONG time ago. Artie: Yeah I know dude... shut up. (everyone laughs) Paul: Sundance used to be like fight central. Artie: I think it closed down when I was in like High School for Christ's sake. But, I spent a lot of my formative years here. Gerrett: Shit, I'm starting to feel old thinking about like the PWAC or whatever. Paul: I know right? I feel mad old! You come to shows and everyone's like 14 years old... Artie: That's fuckin' cool though dude. That means new kids are coming into the scene. I mean this show was a real shock to me because half the show's I've been to in the past few months have been really dead...the past year. Ever since Artie (Phillie) stopped doing shows on Long Island, and the PWAC closed it's been really dead. Because there's no good places to play. Paul: This place isn't THAT bad, it's not that small. Like people play Ground Zero, and thats a bar so it's... Artie: Ground Zero SUCKS. Paul: Exactly. but this place isn't that small... I just don't see it staying open much longer, at least not for shows.I mean it's a club during the week. Artie: Yeah, it's a REAL club. I mean when they start giving you a hard time like about going in and out..I just can't... I mean I wanna be big time arena rock, but I DON'T want to deal with the door guy. I wanna be back stage chillin. Paul: This guy, I swear I talked to this guy like 20 times tonight. If he gives me shit about going back in there's gonna be some problems...all my shit's inside. Artie: Don't worry about it I'll get you back in. Paul: Well you got the band...that's kind of an advantage you have there. ..umm uhmm umm..now I'm shot. Gerrett: I think we covered that one bro. Artie: Was it too much metal dude? Strained your brain on the metal? Paul: Nah, I don't know. I'm aight. Gerrett: You mentioned before, like A&R guys coming out to see you and stuff, have there been any talks or anything with any major labels? Artie: Yeah. There's been a lot actually, but it's so like...Everytime they sign a band, it's like their job is on the line. Paul: That's true. Artie: I used to be really really sheepish about talking about it, but now I just don't fucking care. It's like, last year we had Warner Brothers calling my house, and all this fucking crazy shit going on, and I'd be like...'Oh man don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. They'll kill us in the scene.' And now it's like..Who the fuck cares? Nobody cares anyway. So why should I care? You know? but yeah. They hear our stuff, and they get all excited and they call me and they're like 'Hey man! I think you guys are fuckin great, and blah blah blah.' And it's like Uh huh. They kiss your ass for a while, because that's their job and then you know, nothing gets put on the table. I'm waiting for something on the table. Let's talk money. Give me some fuckin' money. Paul: The press release said that one of the songs on the new record was a commercial radio single...Is it actually being played on the radio? Artie: Yeah it is. Actually I think WLIR(Rock Radio Station on Long Island) played it yesterday. Paul: Yeah? Artie: Yeah somebody told me they' were listening to LIR and they played it during drive time which is like 5 O'clock, and they were talking about the record and how good we were, and blah blah blah...So I've been listening to LIR and I'm like 'Play it Damn it!' Paul: What song is it? Artie: It's called "Kiss Me" Paul: Ok. I like that one. Angela..Angela? Annie? from Some Records... Artie: Anna. Paul: Yeah she sent me the CD. Artie: Yeah, so fuckin' we did an edit..we did a single edit. We cut like 30 seconds off of it which was kinda cool and the song...I wrote it a couple of weeks before that other song called "Kiss Me" came out, so I was kinda pissed off when I heard that (everyone laughs) I was like 'This Sucks!' So I changed the name to "Things That Make You Wanna Kiss Me" and it's umm...It is a pop radio hit. It's like a Dawson's Creek Soundtrack, special song. We tried to make it fit on the record as much as we could, because a lot of the record is really heavy and then there's that song, you know the token...you know, you listen to a bands record and you're like THAT'S their sellout song! So that's our sellout song. (Starts singing) Kiss Me... Gerrett: I understand what you're saying. There's one like that on the new Grade... Artie: Oh oh! (Starts singing again) My relationship... Gerrett: Yeah! Artie: I sang it with them every night on tour! Gerrett: It's a great song though! Artie: Yeah it's a great song! It sounds like Hot Water Music. Like totally sounds like Hot Water Music. I would sing that song every night with them because I love it. I'd be like 'You guys ROCK' and I'd get really drunk and like fuckin' take my clothes off and be like Yeahhhhh! Paul: Grade needs to come down here. They never come down here. Artie: Nah, they're faggots dude. They're not gonna come. (Everyone cracks up) They're faggots dude. Paul: They're from Canada! (More laughing) Artie: Nah, Canada's cool man. Fuckin' they're from Toronto too. They're really cool guys. We toured with them and Gameface this summer and they were like fuckin' so cool. and we had a really good time. Like I thought they were kinda sketchy before but after we toured with them, like we totally broke down, and umm me and Kyle even though we both have like total rock star big lead singer heads so it was cool. They do really well, I mean they draw really well. |
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Paul: Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen them play New York, I mean do they ever play here? Artie: Yeah, they played Brownies with Hot Water. Paul: Back like a couple years ago? Artie: About a year and a half ago. When we toured with them actually, but we didn't play that show. They don't...They played New York on their way up on this tour too, we had separated from them when they played. Paul: Upstate though right? Artie: No, I think it was at Brownies again. Paul: Really?? Artie: Yeah... Paul: Where the fuck was I? (everyone laughs) Artie: Who knows dude. Unless you pick up the Voice you're not gonna know about it you know? That's just kinda the way it goes. But yeah they're cool guys. Fuckin' way cool guys. We like to call em GAYde. I try to get the singer Kyle to out of the closet all the time because he's so fuckin' gay. (everyone's laughing) This is good stuff. Gerrett: This IS good stuff. Artie: I stripped down naked at the last show we played with them and attacked him and tried to make out with him. Paul: While they were playing? Artie: Yeah. Paul: Works for me. Artie: There's pictures on the internet of it. They're on our website. Pre-naked though. My underwear's on in the picture. (The picture is to the left.-G) My girlfriend would fuckin' freak if it wasn't. but ANYWAY, Long Island man. You guys from Long Island? Paul and Gerrett: Yeah. Artie: You're not though you're from Florida... Gerrett: I go to school in Florida. Artie: Allright cool. Paul: We're from out east. Out East where all we fuckin' have is like Jay May(former Tripface guitarist) and... Artie: You know Jay man, what's he been up to? Paul: He umm he got a new job, like something with computers, and I think he wants to go back to school at Stony Brook. He still records. Artie: I miss those guys. Paul: He recorded Tension*'s EP they just put out. Artie: What they put it out on? I don't keep up with the East End metal scene that much... Paul: Some California label actually. I don't really know who. It was limited. Artie: The fuckin' East End is the funniest fuckin' place. When I was in Mind Over Matter Artie Phillie and I did this fanzine called Paranoid we would always get these fuckin demos from bands out east that were just REALLY bad like Neglect rip offs... Gerrett: There were some SHITTY, shitty bands back then. Paul: Yeah they've all panned out at this point. Artie: Have they?! Phew. Paul: Yeah. There's like a few good ones. There's Tommorrow Set Ablaze, Monument...even though they don't really play anymore, Artie: Monument sounds like they're a Mountain records band. Paul: Yeah and there's the Bastard War, and that's about it. Everyone else is pretty much shot. Artie: The Bastard War. Wow. I'm so out of touch. Gerrett: The funny thing about the East End is like...When we were working during the summer, and we'd see Ryan Motive in 7-11... Artie: What's Ryan doing? Paul: Here's here tonight! Artie: Really? I probably wouldn't recognize him. Ryan was the best. I used to encourage those guys to look as white-trash as humanly possible. Paul: They're from Mastic and Shirley... Artie: Yeah dude, I KNOW. (Everyone laughs)Listen I'm from Bellmore, and that's Semi- on the white trash tip. Like a little bit. and Glassjaw is pretty much from North Merrick, North Bellmore, but Mastic Shirley dude? Paul: I'm from Manorville, I'm a hick. Artie: In Nassau County dude, we'd be like yo when you cross the Suffolk County border, like the I.Q level drops tremendously.. you know it's like being in the fuckin' deep South. But I've learned, I mean most of my best friends are from Suffolk County so they're not all bad. Paul: Yeah..and Pete Motive's here too. He just came up from Virginia because he moved down there. Artie: Pete Motive's Awesome dude. He played, when Mind Over Matter did our reunion show and John Lafata didn't come - he was playing across town with Madball, so he couldn't come to the show... Paul: See I went to the Mind Over Matter Reunion show where you DIDN'T play...Centereach VFW? You were supposed to play, it was advertised "Mind Over Matter Reunion Show" for like a Month... Artie: Someone jumped the gun huh? Paul: I don't remember who did that show, but we got thereand they're like...'Oh, Mind Over Matter isn't coming' Everyone's just like...Ah. Artie: It was really hard to get everybody in town at the same time during that period. But we did that show at Coney Island High, it was like a Wreck-Age show, and John couldn't play so Pete..they told me that Motive used to play "Too Much" So I went up to him and was like Pete, you wanna play Too Much? and he's like 'Ok.' So he just got on stage and played it. Then Ben from Silent Majority did the other two songs that he listened to on his CD Player 5 minutes before we went on. Paul: They come out alright? Artie: Yeah! I mean it was retarded. There were so many people on stage singing along it didn't even matter. Paul: Yeah haha he could blame it on people falling into him and shit. Artie: It was a mess...and I mean I was drunk, I don't remember it. Whatever. Paul: Now Motive's doing a reunion in two weeks. Artie: You kidding? Paul: Nope. January 21st. Artie: So kids wanna see a Motive reunion. That's sweet. I was hoping they'd catch on. Their record was cool. Just didn't really take off like at the time it came out. Gerrett: I love that record. Artie: Yeah I always used to tell them, Go more metal, get out of the Hardcore scene, go more metal, become Neurosis, and just get it over with. (Laughter) Like I encourage most bands, just fuckin' leave the hardcore scene, because it's like kids, they come and go and it's just such a fleeting bullshit thing and there's a few bands that get there and most bands just like you know...If you're young, it's fun. If you're my age? it fucking sucks. Paul: Yeah, that's why it's all just young kids now. Artie: That's what it is man, it's just this cycle of young kids and they come and they go and it's usually the kids that start a band or labels, or zines are the ones who stay. But the kids who just like come to shows? They'll leave. If they're Straight Edge? They'll go to college and start drinking. If they're not involved, they're gonna quit as soon as they get bored with it. I don't know. The OLDEST guy EVER is Andy the singer from Kill Your Idols. (Everyone laughs) I mean When I first got into hardcore, Andy was old...... |